Chat logs of #funderscore for Saturday, 2024-06-08
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11:00 <f_> hi
11:00 <vdoServ> Greetings!
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16:48 <f_> > * ChanBreak: ChanBreak allows for simple channel operator management.
16:48 <f_> love breaking channels don't you?
17:13 *** f_ changes topic to '<f_/tc> > Ban -- The channel #funderscore has ChanServ*!*@* banned by rx | free palestine :: https://moin.vitali64.duckdns.org/IRC :: logs: https://irc.vitali64.duckdns.org/rx/funderscore/ :: also on hackint: irc.hackint.org #funderscore, ~chat: irc.tilde.chat #funderscore and XMPP: #funderscore@irc.hackint.org :: have fun! :D'
18:28 <f_> This week is "GitHub getting lots of vulnerabilities" day https://nova.astraltech.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/nova.astraltech.org/gyxustkBIWlBqIufuIiqvRud/IMG_1584.png https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40615653#40615896
18:28 <f_> Today is "GitHub getting lots of vulnerabilities" day https://nova.astraltech.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/nova.astraltech.org/gyxustkBIWlBqIufuIiqvRud/IMG_1584.png https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40615653#40615896
18:29 <f_> Danct12: Do you have me or think I suck?
18:29 <f_> Danct12: Haters have created a new #funderscore-sucks channel on OFTC, Hackint, this network, fireonlive's IRC test server, and tilde.chat
18:31 <hax[xor]> or you could just join for fun even if not :p
18:32 <hax[xor]> also lol at github
18:33 <f_> I do have a GitHub account
18:33 <f_> but it is barely used
18:33 <f_> not sure I even remember the password
18:34 <f_> oh, I think it's in my password manager
18:37 <f_> Look at what I sent in matrix:
18:37 <f_> well, first wait until that damn element client opens
18:38 * hax[xor] gets out calander
18:38 <hax[xor]> so, do you think it'll finish on a monday or a toesday
18:38 <hax[xor]> *tuesday
18:39 <f_> <f_[mtrx]> dead channel
18:39 <f_> <hexaheximal> rela
18:39 <f_> <f_[mtrx]> rela <hexaheximal> rela
18:39 <f_> <f_[mtrx]> this is why I urge you to join the haters' channel #funderscore-sucks on OFTC/Hackint/rx/tilde.chat/irc.fireon.live and of course it isn't registered at all meaning we rely exclusively on ourselves to keep +o when disconnected like in the good ol' days of EFnet
18:40 <f_/h> Damn joining bridged channels at the same time is annoying
18:40 <f_/h> how do I ignore rxbridge's pings
18:40 <hax[xor]> ~~ignore rxbridge~~
18:41 <f_/h> !! "/ignore": the senpai command "IGNORE" does not exist; press enter again to pass the command as is to the server
18:41 <hax[xor]> you could make your client count <> as not a nick seperator?
18:41 <hax[xor]> lol
18:41 <f_/h> well, that's not the issue
18:41 <f_/h> <~f_/rx> doesn't ping me
18:41 <hax[xor]> then what is the issue?
18:41 <f_> oh guess it does, but not with colours added
18:42 <f_/tc> well, when someone pings me I receive 98127632872378237 notificationd
18:42 <f_/tc> *notifications
18:42 <hax[xor]> sounds like you want to mute pings on the whole side of a channel
18:42 <f_/tc> yes
18:42 <hax[xor]> rather than the bridge in specific
18:43 <hax[xor]> for which you'll want to make your client have per-channel ping disables
18:43 <f_/tc> but senpai doesn't have that :P
18:43 <hax[xor]> does it have per-nick ping disables either :P
18:43 <f_/tc> no
18:43 <f_/tc> I can hack stuff like that in though
18:43 <hax[xor]> then it's the same, but the former is a better solution
18:43 <f_/tc> Not the first time I patched senpai
18:43 <hax[xor]> so go patch senpai to have per-channel no-pings
18:44 <f_/tc> I mean, I can probably do that
18:44 <f_/tc> am just lazy
18:45 *** f_ changes topic to '<f_/tc> > Ban -- The channel #funderscore has ChanServ*!*@* banned by rx | free palestine :: https://moin.vitali64.duckdns.org/IRC :: logs: https://irc.vitali64.duckdns.org/rx/funderscore/ :: also on hackint, tilde.chat and XMPP :: have fun! :D'
18:45 <hax[xor]> would be nice to have weechat highlight topic differences too
18:46 <f_/h> catgirl has that
18:48 <f_> btw:
18:49 <f_> <f_> Look at what I sent in matrix:
18:49 <f_> <f_> well, first wait until that damn element client opens
18:49 <f_> * hax[xor] gets out calander
18:49 <f_> <hax[xor]> so, do you think it'll finish on a monday or a tuesday
18:49 <hax[xor]> ;D
18:49 <f_> messed up alignement
18:49 <hax[xor]> hmmm
18:49 <f_> but can I add that in moin.vdo/IRC/Quotes
18:49 <f_> :P
18:50 <f_> s/in/to/
18:50 <f_> hax[xor]: ^
18:50 <hax[xor]> sure
18:51 <hax[xor]> also moin.vdo doesn't seem to be a valid name
18:51 <f_> eh, shortened moin.vitali64.duckdns.org
18:51 <hax[xor]> ah
18:53 <f_> ok
18:54 <f_> vdoServ: RAW :1FU000000 NICK DuckServ 1
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18:55 <JAA/h> I wonder what would happen on a CTCP ping to the channel.
18:55 <fun▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▋> oh no takeover
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18:55 <f_/h> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:55 <hax> what takeover :p
18:56 <JAA/h> PING
18:56 <f_/h> hax what, forgot HaxServ could remove modes from U-Line clients
18:56 <hax[xor]> :D
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18:57 <JAA/h> Not much happened on the PING.
18:57 <f_/h> Eh, maybe rxbridge would answer multiple times
18:57 <f_/h> or something
18:58 <f_/h> Because you appear as a single user on rx
18:58 <f_/h> as JAA/h, to be specific
18:58 <hax[xor]> my client responded to it
18:58 <hax[xor]> but might've done it in a PM
18:58 <f_/h> probably
18:59 <JAA/h> Ah yeah, and the response went to the bridge, I guess.
18:59 <hax[xor]> 14:56:30 -- CTCP requested by JAA/h: PING
18:59 <hax[xor]> 14:56:30 -- CTCP reply to JAA/h: PING PING
18:59 <f_/h> BTW this is how users from tilde.chat and hackint come up as: https://irc.vitali64.duckdns.org/rx/funderscore/2024-06-08.log.html
18:59 <f_/h> Just wait a few minutes until the logs refresh themselves :D
19:00 <JAA/h> I only received responses from three hackint users.
19:00 <f_/h> mm maybe PyLink ignores CTCP to hackint/tilde.chat
19:00 <hax[xor]> it wouldn't relay the ctcp correctly anyways
19:01 <f_/h> JAA: there, this is how your messages are bridged https://irc.vitali64.duckdns.org/rx/funderscore/2024-06-08.log.html
19:01 <hax[xor]> unless it decides to not say the source, which is also an issue
19:01 <hax[xor]> and only works for ctcp replies
19:01 <f_/h> hax[xor] Meh.
19:01 <f_/h> relaybot bridges are awful to begin with
19:01 <hax[xor]> well, not nessecarily
19:02 <f_/h> Necessarily.
19:02 <f_/h> And RELAYMSG ain't solving its issues
19:02 <hax[xor]> RELAYMSG is indeed not a solution
19:02 <f_/h> It's a workaround
19:02 <hax[xor]> but also relay bots aren't that bad, depending on the usage and setup and all
19:03 <f_/h> and TBH it is quite good at that
19:03 <hax[xor]> and in some cases may be preferrable
19:03 <JAA/h> f_: I guess the 0x01 was dropped from the log?
19:03 <f_/h> hax[xor]: No, they're awful. Messages all coming from a single bot and not being able to look at the full members list, as well as tab completion..
19:03 <f_/h> JAA: I believe it did.
19:04 <hax[xor]> messages coming from a single bot yes, not being able to look at the full members list no, tab completion yes
19:04 <hax[xor]> though messages coming from a single bot I don't really have a problem with
19:04 <f_/h> Sure, it's not as bad as the matrix bridge
19:04 <hax[xor]> `not being able to look at the full memebers list` is a common implementation issue
19:04 <f_/h> Someone sent this in #hackint https://img.kuhaon.fun/u/WdXIOa.jpg
19:05 <hax[xor]> even mt's IRC relay fixes it though
19:05 <f_/h> hexa is a hackint network operator
19:05 <f_/h> The hackint matrix bridge has been having issues lately
19:05 <hax[xor]> how about hit matrix with a nuke until it works ;D
19:05 <f_/h> hax[xor]: mt?
19:05 <hax[xor]> minetest
19:05 <hax[xor]> I'm referring to the usual IRC relay mod it has
19:06 <f_/h> I believe #Minetest uses Matterbridge
19:06 <hax[xor]> the *ingame IRC relay mod
19:06 <f_/h> but...just......join #funderscore on Hackint or tilde.chat..
19:06 <hax[xor]> some use a different one though
19:07 <hax[xor]> but most use one that allows both sides to see the full user list, as well as proper join/part/quit relaying, and other such
19:07 <f_/h> what
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19:07 <f_/h> The state of bridges on IRC isn't good TBH
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19:07 <f_/h> You either have relaybots..
19:07 <hax[xor]> and I'm saying MT servers that use one have an above average one :P
19:08 <hax[xor]> *that use one usually have
19:08 <f_/h> ..or hacky puppeting by connecting 40K clients to the same network
19:08 <f_/h> The only really native form of bridging is..literally linking something like PyLink
19:09 <hax[xor]> except pylink is really just puppeting 40k clients
19:09 <f_/h> It isn't connecting them to port 6697
19:09 <hax[xor]> so?
19:09 <f_/h> and having to maintain 40K connections
19:09 <f_/h> It's a server link
19:09 <hax[xor]> well that part is an improvement
19:09 <f_/h> just introduces new clients as necessary
19:09 <f_/h> with inspircd S2S commands and such
19:10 <f_/h> and even the hosts are bridged
19:10 <f_> > User -- JAA/h has username ~JAA and host archiveteam/JAA (mask JAA/h!~JAA@archiveteam/JAA); their realname is JustAnotherArchivist
19:12 <f_/tc> With S2S, PyLink can even sync prefix modes, channels, etc
19:12 <f_/tc> But not everyone have 2 IRC networks they can link to..
19:14 <f_/tc> And I highly doubt e.g. libera staff would accept linking a PyLink
19:14 <JAA/h> Yeah, it'd be neat if you could do something like that on a channel basis.
19:14 <JAA/h> But that obviously can't work, really.
19:16 <f_/h> The only kind of bridging I think would be better than rxbridge echoing stuff is puppeting
19:16 <hax[xor]> sure there's better, you could add a feature for people to list users on the other sides
19:17 <hax[xor]> (assuming that doesn't already exist)
19:17 <f_/h> But then you need to maintain a bunch of IRC connections ...
19:17 <f_/h> hax[xor]: What about tab completion
19:17 <hax[xor]> f_/h: I said better not identical in all ways for S2S bridging
19:18 <hax[xor]> s/for/to/
19:18 <f_/h> At least lightweight puppeting would connect active users
19:18 <f_/h> and stuff
19:18 <hax[xor]> if you only puppet a few then you still need a way to get the full list
19:19 <f_/h> TBH full members list, while nice to have, isn't as important
19:19 <JAA/h> Have a bot kick anyone who's inactive, then you can just maintain puppets for everyone.
19:19 <f_/h> JAA: no, never :P
19:19 <hax[xor]> lol
19:19 <JAA/h> :-P
19:19 <hax[xor]> f_/h: may be less important to some but it's still not worthless
19:19 <f_/h> actually, why not
19:19 <f_/h> let's start
19:19 <hax[xor]> %kill_old 10000
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19:20 <f_> %kill_old 9999999999999
19:20 <hax[xor]> %kill_old 1
19:21 <f_> how do I kill OperServ
19:21 <f_> %help
19:21 <f_> ah yes
19:21 <hax[xor]> I fixed haxserv listening in on random channels :P
19:21 <f_> Yeah
19:21 <f_> <HaxServ> %kill_old Kills old connections (with a time you specify), and OperServ because OperServ is wrong
19:22 <f_> OperServ is right now https://github.com/atheme/atheme/commit/2d9f4f88a326d6eb883820692e4aa93e1e72ea8c
19:23 <hax[xor]> ah so that did get there
19:23 <hax[xor]> anyways, s/is/was/
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19:56 <hax[xor]> hmmm right
19:56 <hax[xor]> 14:56:30 -- LinkServ (ircbridge@fun.irc.andrewyu.org): Private messages to users connected via Clientbot have been administratively disabled.
19:56 <hax[xor]> that's what it was on the ctcp response
19:58 <JAA/h> Ah
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