Chat logs of #funderscore for Saturday, 2024-09-21
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02:53 <Danct12/h> fireonlive++
02:53 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 451 karma!
02:53 <Danct12/h> fireonlive++
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02:53 <Danct12/h> fireonlive++
02:53 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 453 karma!
02:54 <Danct12/h> gimme back my money didnt learn a damn thing from you
02:54 <Danct12/h> except how to lie and cheat
02:55 <Danct12/h> stop calling me a BUNNY i wont hop
02:55 <Danct12/h> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
02:56 <Danct12/h> also good morning
03:15 <Danct12/h> idf.py build 74.32s user 27.31s system 1017% cpu 9.985 total
04:34 <Juest/ef> um, yeah, just do my reverse dns only since its unlikely to change f_
04:34 <Juest/ef> for autoop
04:43 <Juest/ef> if you know what i mean
04:47 * JAA/ef raises eyebrows suggestively.
04:47 <Juest/ef> b
04:48 <Juest/ef> ᕙ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ᕗ
04:48 <JAA/ef> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
04:48 <Juest/ef> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
04:48 <Juest/ef> XD
04:48 <Juest/ef> ah yes, fellow wincompose user?
04:48 <JAA/ef> Do I look like I use Windows?
04:49 <Juest/ef> JAA: ok, what do you use? is the lenny a custom xcompose? :P
04:49 <Juest/ef> for some weird reason, not all emojis are in in wincompose database/list of hotkeys/macros
04:49 <JAA/ef> Debian, but I use this rarely enough that I just have it in a text file and copy it as needed.
04:49 <Juest/ef> fingers crossed is missing
04:49 <Juest/ef> oh lmao
04:49 <JAA/ef> Maybe I should add it though.
04:49 <Juest/ef> i forgot about that
04:49 <Juest/ef> well idk
04:50 <Juest/ef> its addictive once you have it on speed dial :)
04:50 <JAA/ef> Lenny's hanging out there together with ಠ_ಠ and ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻.
04:50 <Juest/ef> (ﾉಥ益ಥ）ﾉ彡┻━┻l
04:51 <JAA/ef> ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻
04:51 <Juest/ef> Damn
04:51 <Juest/ef> didn't see that one coming
04:51 <JAA/ef> ┬─┬ ノ( ^_^ノ)
04:51 <Juest/ef> anyways how its going?
04:51 <Juest/ef> anything interesting?
04:52 <JAA/ef> It's ... going, I guess. But meh.
04:52 <Juest/ef> listening to trackmania united - snow on loop, how was your day? wyd?
04:52 <Juest/ef> bought an apartment today
04:53 <Juest/ef> was on the notary public establishment this afternoon
04:53 <Juest/ef> with parents
04:56 <JAA/ef> Mild headache, trying to keep myself occupied, and just generally in a meh mood.
04:56 <JAA/ef> Also, archiving shit, as usual. :-)
04:56 <Juest/ef> ah nice
04:57 <JAA/ef> Congratulations on the apartment!
05:44 <runxiyu> I used to have a text file (actually tsv) with a dmenu script to select from
05:44 <runxiyu> where did I get +a from, huh
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08:05 <Juest_> lolwut
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10:32 <f_> runxiyu: yes
10:33 <Danct12/h> hi f_
10:33 <Danct12/h> does art SELL
10:33 <f_/h> Danct12: yes
10:34 <Danct12/h> fiveonlive++
10:34 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fiveonlive' now has 1 karma!
10:34 <Danct12/h> fireeonlive++
10:34 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireeonlive' now has 1 karma!
10:34 <Danct12/h> asikolpdhasoiudasd
10:34 <f_/h> fiveonlive--
10:34 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fiveonlive' now has 0 karma!
10:34 <f_/h> fireeonlive--
10:34 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireeonlive' now has 0 karma!
10:34 <Danct12/h> fireonlive++
10:34 <f_/h> fireonlive++
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10:34 <f_/h> fireonlive++
10:34 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 455 karma!
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10:34 <Danct12/h> fireonlive++
10:34 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 457 karma!
10:34 <Danct12/h> fireonlive++
10:46 <f_/h> fireonlive++
10:46 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 458 karma!
10:46 <f_/h> fireonlive++
10:46 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 459 karma!
10:46 <f_/h> fireonlive++
10:46 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 460 karma!
10:46 <Danct12/h> fireonlive++
10:46 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 461 karma!
10:46 <Danct12/h> fireonlive++
10:46 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 462 karma!
10:47 <Danct12/h> fireonlive++
10:47 <Danct12/h> fireonlive++
10:47 <Danct12/h> fireonlive++
10:47 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 463 karma!
10:47 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'fireonlive' now has 464 karma!
10:47 <f_/h> morning all
10:47 <Danct12/h> morning f_
10:47 <katia/h> good afternoon
10:47 <f_/h> It seems like someone else actually cared about my matrix-appservice-irc patches
10:47 <f_/h> https://git.pixie.town/f0x/matrix-appservice-irc/commit/a5bfbfb43151c028a914ff11b896a709f45314f5
10:47 <f_/h> https://git.pixie.town/f0x/matrix-appservice-irc/commit/4b023780ff04d27a305babc34391bdd547e192a6
10:47 <katia/h> f0x is nice :)
10:48 <f_/h> yeah :)
10:48 <f_/h> joined pixie.town's matrix channel
10:49 <katia/h> we troubleshooted some things together when i had my matrix server and could not message someone on their matrix.
11:22 *** f_ sets mode: +a Noisytoot
11:22 *** f_ sets mode: +o Noisytoot
11:23 <f_> Noisytoot: set up nickserv
11:23 <f_> you're not authenticated so you don't get op automatically
11:23 <f_> Juest__: ^^ same
11:27 <katia/h> btw f_ with the flags you gave people we cannot chanserv unban
11:27 <f_/h> meh just ask me for unban then
11:27 <katia/h> needs +r for that
11:27 <f_/h> yep
11:27 <f_/h> !flags
11:27 <katia/h> !flags
11:28 <f_/h> !flags katia +r
11:28 -moist/h- f_ (funderscore) set flags +r on katia
11:28 <f_/h> !flags Danct12 +r
11:28 -moist/h- f_ (funderscore) set flags +r on danct12
11:28 <f_/h> !flags [R] +r
11:28 -moist/h- f_ (funderscore) set flags +r on [R]
11:28 <f_/h> [R] +r .. heh
11:28 <katia/h> !help flags
11:28 <f_/h> !flags Noisytoot +r
11:28 -moist/h- f_ (funderscore) set flags +r on Noisytoot
11:28 <f_/h> !flags fireonlive +r
11:28 -moist/h- f_ (funderscore) set flags +r on fireonlive
11:28 <f_/h> Did I miss anyone
11:29 <katia/h> 1flags
11:29 <katia/h> !flags
11:29 <f_/h> Except $oper that is..
11:29 <f_/h> they can just do OperServ hackery to get rid of bans
11:29 <f_/h> or ChanFix the channel
11:30 <f_/h> (or whatever
11:30 <katia/h> /samode
11:30 <f_/h> Solanum/Charybdis does not have SAMODE
11:30 <katia/h> huh
12:12 <f_/h> FeedServ on XMPP is going down for updates
12:13 <Mb> <f_/X> !help
12:13 <Mb> <f_/X> FeedServ: help
12:13 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> Available command keys:
12:13 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> http://conference.vitali64.duckdns.org:5280/pastebin/4a2c2cc1-91be-43e0-9cca-6ff97e9c2fb9
12:13 <Mb> <f_/X> why
12:15 <Mb> <f_/X> !list
12:15 <Mb> <f_/X> FeedServ: list
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> An unknown command. Type "help" for a list of commands.
12:15 <Mb> <f_/X> FeedServ: help
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> Available command keys:
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> ```
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> all
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> action
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> backup
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> bookmarks
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> custom
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> filters
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> groupchat
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> manual
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> message
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> modification
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> options
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> preview
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> search
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> statistics
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> ```
12:15 <Mb> <FeedServ/X> Usage: `help <key>`
12:15 <f_/h> ok
12:16 <f_/h> done
12:20 <runxiyu> f_/h: Solanum has oper override, umode +O
12:20 <f_/h> anyway
12:20 <f_/h> Bunch of ways for Hackint staffers to take over the channel really.
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13:00 <f_/ef> JAAunderscore
13:00 <f_/h> bye katia
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13:07 <f_> wb katia
13:19 <katia/h> tnx f_
13:20 <katia/h> i still dont understand how nixos works :( i did an upgrade and it recreated the znc container.
13:22 <f_/h> :( :( :(
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16:03 <f_/ef> lots of connection noise on EFnet
16:18 <f_|aop/ef> ah it's just a netsplit
16:18 <JAA_/ef> This is fine. Everything is working correctly.
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16:20 <JAA/ef> There is absolutely nothing wrong with this very functional network.
16:23 <f_/ef> Aaaabsolutely
16:30 <f_/h> EFnet--
16:30 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'EFnet' now has -11 karma!
16:30 <f_/h> o.O -11 karma?
16:30 <f_/h> I'm sure JAA spammed EFnet-- at one point.
16:33 <JAA/h> Nope, it just accumulated because EFnet sucks.
16:33 <JAA/h> EFnet--
16:33 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'EFnet' now has -12 karma!
16:42 <f_/ef> It did not accumulate all that much though.
16:42 <f_/h> EFnet--
16:42 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'EFnet' now has -13 karma!
16:42 <f_/h> now
16:42 <f_/h> EFnet++
16:42 -eggdrop/h- [karma] 'EFnet' now has -12 karma!
16:42 <f_/h> EFnet does have some nice things
16:43 <f_/h> I said "some"
16:43 <f_/h> please don't shoot me JAA
16:43 <JAA/h> I mean, at least it's IRC, so it has that going for it.
16:43 <f_/h> yep
16:44 <f_/h> It still exists, after all those years, which is quite impressive.
16:44 <JAA/h> True
16:44 <f_/h> (just like OFTC and Rizon and the other usual suspects - but still)
16:46 <JAA/h> Undernet, I guess?
16:46 <f_/h> Yeah, that one too, but I don't lurk in Undernet.
16:46 <JAA/h> And IRCnet
16:46 <f_/h> Same for IRCnet
16:46 <JAA/h> Yeah, me neither.
16:47 <JAA/h> I'm in enough channels as is.
16:47 <f_/h> But seeing those IRC networks, still around, even after decades, is impressive.
16:47 <JAA/ef> This is window 457, and it isn't even the last one.
16:47 <f_/h> JAA: 1000 channels?
16:47 <hax[xor]> f_: noisytoot is probably still using their expired tls cert
16:47 <f_/h> hax[xor]: Eh, Noisytoot ^
16:48 <JAA/h> Nah, actually some of the windows are PMs. Probably 350-ish channels?
16:48 <f_> I'm in 400-ish channels.
16:48 <f_> 14-ish networks.
16:48 <JAA/h> 4 networks here: hackint, Libera, OFTC, EFnet
16:49 <JAA/h> I'm almost at the maximum number of channels on hackint.
16:49 <f_> is it still 123?
16:50 <JAA/h> 256
16:50 <JAA/h> I think it got bumped due to us (AT). lol
16:50 <f_/h> And how many channels on Hackint?
16:50 <f_/h> Well some of EFnet's downsides were niche IMO
16:51 <f_/h> e.g. channel limit.. ArchiveTeam is one of the rare projects with that many channels at all.
16:51 <f_/h> lol
16:52 <JAA/h> You're not wrong. But some servers had (or have?) a limit of 20. You'll easily bump into that otherwise, too.
16:52 <f_/h> Ok that is insane.
16:52 <JAA/h> I had my main client connected to two servers with 100, and my backup client split across three servers with 40/40/20...
16:52 <JAA/h> That was the best option I could find.
16:53 <f_/h> JAA, JAA_, AlsoJAA, AlsoJAA_, AlsoJAA__, AlsoJAA___ etc
16:53 <JAA/h> Main client connected to one of two servers, with both servers in the client config to switch when one broke.
16:53 <JAA/h> I went with AlsoJAA2, AlsoJAA3, but yeah.
16:53 <f_/h> oh well
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18:23 <JAA/h> EFnet such stable, much wow.
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18:23 <JAA/h> Choopa is timing out, and colosolutions fails to resolve. lol
18:24 <f_/ef> such wow
18:24 <f_/ef> much wow
18:24 <katia/h> premium choopa
18:24 <f_|aop/ef> EFnet such stable, much wow.
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18:24 <f_|aop/ef> Premium ColoSolutions
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19:32 <JAA/h> > Channel #funderscore is temporarily unavailable
19:32 <JAA/h> lol
19:54 <Juest_> RIP Error from server: Closing Link: rev190-105-167-002.pccp.net.ar (Sorry, server is full - try later)
19:55 <Juest_> f_ what server are you connected to?
19:55 <Juest_> oof jaa as well
19:55 <JAA/h> > Server Terminating. Beige[tmc@auxiliary.beige.org]
19:55 <f_/h> haha
19:55 *** Juest_ is now known as Juesto
19:56 <f_/ef> Juesto: Depends on which connection you're talking about
19:56 <JAA/h> I have choopa and colosolutions in my config from back when those were the only servers where I could reasonably join all channels I wanted.
19:56 <f_/ef> This one connects to deft
19:56 <Juesto> your efnet connections f_
19:56 <f_|aop/ef> This one connects to Prison
19:56 <Juesto> and uh, what other servers would you suggest for me to connect to?
19:56 <Juesto> hmmmmmmm
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19:56 <f_[x]/ef> And this one connects to mzima
19:56 <Juesto> and doesnt prisonNET disallow bouncers??? o_O
19:57 <f_|aop/ef> Prison disallows bouncers yes
19:57 <f_|aop/ef> but I haven't been kicked out of it so far
19:57 <Juesto> but allows bots or what?
19:57 <Juesto> what client is it?
19:57 <f_|aop/ef> no they don't allow bots either
19:57 <Juesto> hiding znc or something?
19:57 <JAA/h> There hasn't been that long of an outage on both of these servers for a few years.
19:57 <f_|aop/ef> This client is a ZNC acting as an auto-op bot
19:57 <Juesto> lol fun
19:57 <f_|aop/ef> JAA: But honestly, this is fine
19:57 <JAA/h> Yeah, totally fine.
19:57 <f_|aop/ef> OFTC also sometimes kill servers temporarily
19:58 <Juesto> not sure what server it is that is throwing the full message quit :(
19:58 <JAA/h> Is it the one with the 'sorry, the internet is full, fuck off' MOTD?
19:58 <f_|aop/ef> just... they actually have a round-robin and they slowly drain the server in question slowly
19:58 <Juesto> colosolutions or efnet rr??
19:58 <f_|aop/ef> JAA: I don't connect to that
19:58 <Juesto> or choppa
19:58 <f_|aop/ef> I think it's port80's MOTD JAA
19:58 <Juesto> uh JAA: im getting a server full KILL
19:58 <JAA/h> Yeah, round-robin is great when the servers actually have the same-ish config.
19:59 <f_/h> EFnet does have a round-robin
19:59 <f_/h> ssl.efnet.org
19:59 <JAA/h> Varying CHANLIMIT, varying IPv6 support, varying TLS support...
19:59 <f_/h> yeah....
19:59 <JAA/h> Do any of the servers even have valid TLS certs these days?
19:59 <Juesto> hmm and irc.efnet.net is what?
19:59 <f_/h> Prison has, I think.
19:59 <JAA/h> Yeah, but fuck Prison. :-)
19:59 <f_/h> but eh, not the first network with not really valid TLS certs
20:00 <JAA/h> Just got the 'Sorry, server is full - try later' as well, from choopa.
20:00 <JAA/h> Sure, but that's not a valid excuse in 2024. :-)
20:00 <f_/h> aop and fol are still connected though so that's good
20:00 <f_/h> JAA: haha, ChatSpike also has invalid TLS certs
20:01 <f_/h> but they do try to fix it when they can
20:01 <f_/h> In fact, they fixed it a while ago
20:01 <f_/h> then it went invalid again
20:01 <f_/h> As a reminder ChatSpike is InspIRCd's home, it hosts InspIRCd's IRC channels.
20:03 <JAA/h> > You are banned from this server- Temporary K-line 14400 min.
20:03 <JAA/h> lol
20:03 <JAA/h> If I have ever been connected to mzima, it was like 6+ years ago.
20:03 <JAA/h> Maybe they're banning all OVH IPs.
20:04 <f_[x]/ef> mzima also has broken ident detection
20:04 <f_[x]/ef> But do you even run an identd at all?
20:05 <JAA/h> I don't.
20:05 <JAA/h> No point in doing so on an unshared system.
20:07 <Juesto> lol
20:07 <Juesto> ah, they did have broken mailing with nickserv regs some months ago
20:07 <Juesto> chatspike
20:09 <f_/h> yeah but when I tried it worked Juesto
20:10 <f_> obviously rx is the best IRC network ever
20:10 <f_> rx - only IRC network whose services run on hax[xor]'s laptop™
20:11 <f_> let me try choopa
20:11 <f_> actually choopa k-lined me
20:12 <f_> hey Danct12
20:12 <Noisytoot/ef> why do you keep getting k-lined?
20:12 <f_> Noisytoot: No idea, I just tried using the nickname "fun" on choopa.
20:12 <Noisytoot/ef> port80's motd is the goatse
20:12 <f_> The *!~*@Server K-Line on libera was justified though
20:13 <f_> is port80 even alive
20:13 <f_> I am not going to connect to it then Noisytoot
20:15 <Noisytoot/ef> ZNC has a blockmotd module
20:15 <Noisytoot/ef> which I suspect is for exactly this
20:15 <f_/h> good
20:15 <f_/h> I don't like NSFW stuff like this
20:15 <f_|aop/ef> I don't like NSFW stuff at all
20:17 <Juesto> what
20:17 <Juesto> lol
20:18 <Juesto> huh wtf
20:18 <Juesto> now it cannot resolve hostname
20:18 <Juesto> o_O
20:18 <Juesto> also uhhhh
20:18 <Juesto> apparently hexchat on my windows system doesnt appear to be connecting in the correct encoding
20:18 <Juesto> to rx ircd
20:19 <Juesto> soo idk whats up with that
20:21 <Juesto> HUH WTF
20:21 <Juesto> so maybe its just
20:21 <Juesto> cuz a weirdness with hexchat tabs
20:21 <Juesto> then
20:21 <Juesto> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
20:21 <Juesto> help me fix encoding
20:21 <Juesto> like hexchat encoding setting
20:22 <Juesto> this is happening *without* adding the server to hexchat network list
20:22 <Juesto> soooooooooooooo
20:22 <Juesto> also
20:22 <f_/h> weird
20:23 <Juesto> chathispano/irc-hispano uses Windows-1252 instead because of ancient pre-unicode mIRC, so possibly it is because i opened a new tab that sourced settings from the hispano settings????
20:23 <Juesto> how do i change the encoding in hexchat without adding the network?
20:24 <f_/h> https://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tips.html#special-glyphs ?
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20:26 <Juesto> there it goes
20:28 <Juesto> no f_, that's alt fonts not encoding differences
20:28 <Juesto> you didnt notice that i send question marks when i send the symbols such as shrug or whatever?
20:30 <Juesto> and also that i see strange symbols i shouldnt be seeing instead of the expected symbols
20:30 <Juesto> so yeah
20:30 <Juesto> encoding not a font issue
20:30 <Juesto> -.-
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20:38 <hax[xor]> great solution: don'tuse hexchat, yay problem solved! :P
20:39 <hax[xor]> also: do normal IRC clients count as a bot, since they automatically respond to PONG? (and some even respond to CTCPs!) :P
20:39 <hax[xor]> er, respond to PING*
20:42 <Juesto> oh come on hax[xor]
20:42 <JAA/h> So now I'm connected again but didn't rejoin the channels because reasons.
20:43 <JAA/h> (╯°□°)╯︵ʇǝuꓞƎ
20:43 <Juesto> and btw
20:43 <Juesto> i get bad characters here but its fine on the znc connections
20:43 <Juesto> ??\_(???)_/??
20:43 <Juesto> a.a
20:43 <Juesto> do you notice anything????
20:43 <f_/h> yes
20:44 <f_/h> Bunch of question marks
20:44 <f_/h> "??\_(???)_/??"
20:44 <Juesto> exactly
20:44 <Juesto> ......
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20:44 <Juesto> again, encoding != font
20:44 <Juesto> idk why you kinda misled me with the additional fonts setting f_
20:44 <f_/h> I know
20:44 <f_/h> but this is what I saw
20:44 <Juesto> especially if you know its a encoding issue
20:44 <Juesto> yes
20:44 <Juesto> i know
20:44 <Juesto> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
20:44 <Juesto> bruh
20:44 <hax[xor]> [InspIRCd v3] [irc.runxiyu.org -> us] Got `@time=2024-09-21T20:43:48.111Z;msgid=100~1724557771~33750 :100AAABZO PRIVMSG #funderscore :??\_(???)_/??'
20:45 <f_/h> well I'm not familar with hexchat so can't help you there :(
20:45 <hax[xor]> smells like hexchat is sending the ?s
20:45 <Juesto> ????? idk
20:45 <f_/ef> > <JAA/h> So now I'm connected again but didn't rejoin the channels because reasons.
20:45 <Juesto> hax[xor]: dude, the encoding is wrong on this server in my hexchat instance and i dont know how to fix that without adding the server to the network list
20:45 <f_/ef> JAA: you rejoined now those?
20:45 <f_/ef> Juesto: actually....
20:46 <hax[xor]> Juesto: eh?
20:46 <f_/ef> I think we have UTF8ONLY loaded
20:46 <JAA/ef> Looks like that was a consequence of the 'fuck off' from earlier.
20:46 <Juesto> like, im connected with the wrong encoding
20:46 <Juesto> what
20:46 <hax[xor]> UTF8ONLY bad
20:46 <f_/ef> https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/utf8-only
20:46 <JAA/h> UTF-8 and UTC or GTFO
20:46 <f_/ef> do we have it loaded
20:46 <f_/ef> let me check
20:46 <hax[xor]> JAA/h: so? not having UTF8ONLY doesn't mean clients must not use UTF8
20:47 <Juesto> hax[xor], f_, uhhh, i only know that my client on this computer is apparently connecting with a different encoding than utf-8 obviously, i got other instances of hexchat on windows and linux working fine when connecting to this server
20:47 <Juesto> so basically somehow, it seems to have a different encoding set that i cant seem to change without using the network list
20:47 <Juesto> which is fucking annoying
20:47 <JAA/h> hax[xor]: Sure, but it bans obsolete shitty encodings. :-)
20:48 <Juesto> cant you query what encoding my user is even using?????
20:48 <hax[xor]> JAA/h: binary is an obsolete shitty encoding for binary data
20:48 <hax[xor]> Juesto: no, we can't, since that's all client-side
20:48 <f_> Juesto: no not that I'm aware of
20:48 <f_> encoding is client-side
20:48 <Juesto> but the ircd knows what encoding clients send, no????
20:48 <Juesto> or idk whatever
20:48 <hax[xor]> not really, it can make guesses at it
20:48 <f_> I think it just guesses
20:49 <JAA/h> Does it even guess? Or does it just forward bytes?
20:49 <f_> yeah
20:49 <Juesto> so how i can fix the stupid encoding without resorting to putting the server/network in hexchat network/server list????????????
20:49 <Juesto> its supposed to be 'autodetect' style
20:49 <Juesto> ~_~
20:52 <f_> hmmmmm https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/1636
20:54 <f_/h> Juesto: does this render: à
20:55 <Juesto> f_ are you dumb? i already said i get random character nonsense instead of the correct symbol
20:55 <Juesto> and if i send that
20:56 <Juesto> it does show up correctly on your side
20:56 <Juesto> but if i send a proper desired symbol it shows up as question mark for you
20:59 <f_/h> Juesto: chill
21:00 <f_> but my guess is probably locale or something?
21:00 <f_> but I never used HexChat, sorry.
21:01 <f_> maybe #hexchat on libera can help
21:14 <Juesto> f_: nah, im using en us and stuff like that, uhhhhh. also hexchat is literally discontinued if you didnt know
21:14 <Juesto> a.a
21:14 <Juesto> frustrating !!!!
21:17 <JAA/h> HexChat is no longer being developed. Doesn't mean the people in the channel might not know what's causing this or how to fix it, if it's possible via settings etc.
21:20 <f_[x]/h> Juesto: I know but the IRC channel is still somewhat a bit active AFAICT
21:20 <Juesto> again, jaa, im too advanced for the average project helpdesk support
21:21 <Juesto> f_, nah, unless by active you mean social spam :P
21:21 <Juesto> the irc support channels that is
21:21 <Juesto> i got the experience
21:23 <JAA/h> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
21:23 <Juesto> bruh
21:24 <Juesto> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
21:24 <Juesto> so i just copypasted the message
21:24 <Juesto> and the broken symbols for me look correct to you, yes?
21:24 <JAA/h> Yes
21:24 <Juesto> wellll
21:24 <Juesto> idk how to solve that
21:25 <Juesto> and i dont think anyone else in the hexchat channel would know other than adding it to the network list and configuring it from there
21:25 <Juesto> design flaw
21:25 <Juesto> apparently
21:30 <Noisytoot/ef> "I'm too advanced to ask in the project's actual IRC channel so I'm going to ask in a completely unrelated channel instead"
21:47 <Juesto> Noisytoot, nah, more like i'd rather ask in an unrelated place where more minded people might be hanging around who possibly understand it better kind of thought
21:52 <JAA/h> The odds of someone else in a random small channel using the same IRC client as you are pretty slim. And even if they do, they'd probably add it to the network list because that's how you normally do it in HexChat. If you refuse to do so, yeah, maybe your options are limited.
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22:04 <f_[x]> ^
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